Jason Sion Mokhtarian
- Published in print:
- 2015
- Published Online:
- May 2016
- ISBN:
- 9780520286207
- eISBN:
- 9780520961548
- Item type:
- chapter
- Publisher:
- University of California Press
- DOI:
- 10.1525/california/9780520286207.003.0003
- Subject:
- Religion, Judaism
This chapter analyzes the dozens of texts in rabbinic literature, including the Jerusalem Talmud and Midrashim, that describe the Persians as an imperial ethno-class. After explicating the range of ...
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This chapter analyzes the dozens of texts in rabbinic literature, including the Jerusalem Talmud and Midrashim, that describe the Persians as an imperial ethno-class. After explicating the range of scholarly debates, from Jacob Neusner’s pessimism to Yaakov Elman’s optimism, regarding the extent to which there exist Persian influences on the Talmud, chapter 3 investigates the rabbis’ attitudes and debates surrounding Persians as external others. For its part, the Babylonian Talmud discusses Persian cuisine, sex habits, fashion, festivals, and law in various places, typically as a means of contrast with rabbinic culture. Several common leitmotifs are found in these passages—namely, the Persians as haughty, horse riders, and bears (Dan. 7:5). Both exegesis and history play a role in the way in which the Babylonian rabbis depict the Persians. Notably, the Talmud does not focus on the Zoroastrian elements of Persian culture, thus downplaying the religious dimensions of the Jewish-Persian interface. This chapter also discusses at length the interpretation of Iranian loanwords in the Talmud.Less
This chapter analyzes the dozens of texts in rabbinic literature, including the Jerusalem Talmud and Midrashim, that describe the Persians as an imperial ethno-class. After explicating the range of scholarly debates, from Jacob Neusner’s pessimism to Yaakov Elman’s optimism, regarding the extent to which there exist Persian influences on the Talmud, chapter 3 investigates the rabbis’ attitudes and debates surrounding Persians as external others. For its part, the Babylonian Talmud discusses Persian cuisine, sex habits, fashion, festivals, and law in various places, typically as a means of contrast with rabbinic culture. Several common leitmotifs are found in these passages—namely, the Persians as haughty, horse riders, and bears (Dan. 7:5). Both exegesis and history play a role in the way in which the Babylonian rabbis depict the Persians. Notably, the Talmud does not focus on the Zoroastrian elements of Persian culture, thus downplaying the religious dimensions of the Jewish-Persian interface. This chapter also discusses at length the interpretation of Iranian loanwords in the Talmud.
Sergey Dolgopolski
- Published in print:
- 2012
- Published Online:
- May 2013
- ISBN:
- 9780823244928
- eISBN:
- 9780823252497
- Item type:
- book
- Publisher:
- Fordham University Press
- DOI:
- 10.5422/fordham/9780823244928.001.0001
- Subject:
- Philosophy, Philosophy of Religion
The book shows how the characters in the Talmud live their lives as performances of remembering the past traditions better. As the book argues much life of the characters means constant verification ...
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The book shows how the characters in the Talmud live their lives as performances of remembering the past traditions better. As the book argues much life of the characters means constant verification of the memory of the past through intrinsically open process of refuting, counterrefuting, and reinventing, that gives the characters their authority, and by the same token, keeps their past in the open. Reading the Talmud and philosophical discourse in light of each other the book takes up the fundamental problem of time. It asks: What are the modes of thinking in late ancient texts of the Talmud? Resulting from a heuristic rereading of the texts of the Babylonian Talmud against the grid of its reception in twentieth century text-critical scholarship on the Talmud, Talmud criticism, the answer has to do with historically older forms of the virtual agents, agency, and of the virtual as such. The analysis discerns and renegotiates two tacit philosophical subscriptions that continue to inform Talmud criticism: the medieval concept of a virtual agency called “thinking subject” and its modern continuations privileging the future over the past in understanding of the nature of time, in which the “thinking subject” lives. These assumptions defined how critical scholars have understood the named, nameless and “anonymous” characters in the Talmud. Predicating life of the “thinking subject” on having a future made modern philosophers—and scholars on the Talmud with them—reduce the past to a necessary fiction of the starting point, thereby erasing a possibility of looking at the past, rather than future, as informing human experience of living in the world with others, and in particular with the other others. Departing from the paradigm of the “thinking subject” living in futurist time, the book shows how the characters displayed in the Talmud return the erased possibility of approaching both the past and the virtual differently.Less
The book shows how the characters in the Talmud live their lives as performances of remembering the past traditions better. As the book argues much life of the characters means constant verification of the memory of the past through intrinsically open process of refuting, counterrefuting, and reinventing, that gives the characters their authority, and by the same token, keeps their past in the open. Reading the Talmud and philosophical discourse in light of each other the book takes up the fundamental problem of time. It asks: What are the modes of thinking in late ancient texts of the Talmud? Resulting from a heuristic rereading of the texts of the Babylonian Talmud against the grid of its reception in twentieth century text-critical scholarship on the Talmud, Talmud criticism, the answer has to do with historically older forms of the virtual agents, agency, and of the virtual as such. The analysis discerns and renegotiates two tacit philosophical subscriptions that continue to inform Talmud criticism: the medieval concept of a virtual agency called “thinking subject” and its modern continuations privileging the future over the past in understanding of the nature of time, in which the “thinking subject” lives. These assumptions defined how critical scholars have understood the named, nameless and “anonymous” characters in the Talmud. Predicating life of the “thinking subject” on having a future made modern philosophers—and scholars on the Talmud with them—reduce the past to a necessary fiction of the starting point, thereby erasing a possibility of looking at the past, rather than future, as informing human experience of living in the world with others, and in particular with the other others. Departing from the paradigm of the “thinking subject” living in futurist time, the book shows how the characters displayed in the Talmud return the erased possibility of approaching both the past and the virtual differently.
David Weiss Halivni
- Published in print:
- 2013
- Published Online:
- September 2013
- ISBN:
- 9780199739882
- eISBN:
- 9780199345038
- Item type:
- chapter
- Publisher:
- Oxford University Press
- DOI:
- 10.1093/acprof:oso/9780199739882.003.0001
- Subject:
- Religion, Judaism
This chapter discusses the dating and identity of the Stammaim. Halivni revises his previous view and now dates the Stammaitic era to 550-750 CE. He views the Saboraim, the post-Talmudic sages ...
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This chapter discusses the dating and identity of the Stammaim. Halivni revises his previous view and now dates the Stammaitic era to 550-750 CE. He views the Saboraim, the post-Talmudic sages mentioned in Geonic sources, as the later Stammaim, c. 700-750 CE. Evidence for the late dating of the Stammaim is presented, including Talmudic passages that contain multiple layers of anonymous strata, and could only have been composed over a very lengthy period of time. Halivni also explains that the Talmud was never “closed” by a formal decision or agency, but came to a close in and of itself when sages began writing independent books, c. 770 CE. Halivni underscores the differences between his view and the traditional Jewish view of the dating of the Talmud and accounts for why the Stammaim and their contribution were lost to Jewish tradition.Less
This chapter discusses the dating and identity of the Stammaim. Halivni revises his previous view and now dates the Stammaitic era to 550-750 CE. He views the Saboraim, the post-Talmudic sages mentioned in Geonic sources, as the later Stammaim, c. 700-750 CE. Evidence for the late dating of the Stammaim is presented, including Talmudic passages that contain multiple layers of anonymous strata, and could only have been composed over a very lengthy period of time. Halivni also explains that the Talmud was never “closed” by a formal decision or agency, but came to a close in and of itself when sages began writing independent books, c. 770 CE. Halivni underscores the differences between his view and the traditional Jewish view of the dating of the Talmud and accounts for why the Stammaim and their contribution were lost to Jewish tradition.
Sergey Dolgopolski
- Published in print:
- 2009
- Published Online:
- March 2011
- ISBN:
- 9780823229345
- eISBN:
- 9780823236725
- Item type:
- chapter
- Publisher:
- Fordham University Press
- DOI:
- 10.5422/fso/9780823229345.003.0006
- Subject:
- Religion, Judaism
This chapter explores the written work of R. I. Canpanton entitled The Ways of the Talmud. It studies this work of Talmudic methodology in order to compensate for the lack of its existence in English ...
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This chapter explores the written work of R. I. Canpanton entitled The Ways of the Talmud. It studies this work of Talmudic methodology in order to compensate for the lack of its existence in English and to show how his book corresponds empirically to the theoretical perspective established in the first chapter.Less
This chapter explores the written work of R. I. Canpanton entitled The Ways of the Talmud. It studies this work of Talmudic methodology in order to compensate for the lack of its existence in English and to show how his book corresponds empirically to the theoretical perspective established in the first chapter.
Sergey Dolgopolski
- Published in print:
- 2012
- Published Online:
- May 2013
- ISBN:
- 9780823244928
- eISBN:
- 9780823252497
- Item type:
- chapter
- Publisher:
- Fordham University Press
- DOI:
- 10.5422/fordham/9780823244928.003.0001
- Subject:
- Philosophy, Philosophy of Religion
The Introduction outlines agendas, approaches and structure of the book. It asks the question of difference between modern thinking and historical methods of thinking, particularly within Jewish ...
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The Introduction outlines agendas, approaches and structure of the book. It asks the question of difference between modern thinking and historical methods of thinking, particularly within Jewish tradition. It isolates Talmud as a way of thinking and highlights discontinuity between late ancient and medieval versions of the thinking called “Talmud.” The structure of the book takes the reader from the question “Who Speaks in the Talmud?” to “Who Thinks in the Talmud?” to “Who remembers in the Talmud?”Less
The Introduction outlines agendas, approaches and structure of the book. It asks the question of difference between modern thinking and historical methods of thinking, particularly within Jewish tradition. It isolates Talmud as a way of thinking and highlights discontinuity between late ancient and medieval versions of the thinking called “Talmud.” The structure of the book takes the reader from the question “Who Speaks in the Talmud?” to “Who Thinks in the Talmud?” to “Who remembers in the Talmud?”
Jason P. Rosenblatt
- Published in print:
- 2006
- Published Online:
- September 2007
- ISBN:
- 9780199286133
- eISBN:
- 9780191713859
- Item type:
- chapter
- Publisher:
- Oxford University Press
- DOI:
- 10.1093/acprof:oso/9780199286133.003.0012
- Subject:
- Literature, Poetry
Selden is 17th-century England’s greatest Erastian, but he is also its greatest humanist scholar, and he brings his learning to bear on the subject of excommunication, which was the flash-point in ...
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Selden is 17th-century England’s greatest Erastian, but he is also its greatest humanist scholar, and he brings his learning to bear on the subject of excommunication, which was the flash-point in the debates over clerical and secular power. People resented the meddling of the clergy in their private lives and the public shame of exclusion from the sacrament of the Lord’s Supper. Selden’s arguments in De Synedriis and in the Proceedings of the Westminster Assembly of Divines against Presbyterian control of excommunication can be summed up in Milton’s famous line, ‘New Presbyter is but old Priest writ large’.Less
Selden is 17th-century England’s greatest Erastian, but he is also its greatest humanist scholar, and he brings his learning to bear on the subject of excommunication, which was the flash-point in the debates over clerical and secular power. People resented the meddling of the clergy in their private lives and the public shame of exclusion from the sacrament of the Lord’s Supper. Selden’s arguments in De Synedriis and in the Proceedings of the Westminster Assembly of Divines against Presbyterian control of excommunication can be summed up in Milton’s famous line, ‘New Presbyter is but old Priest writ large’.
David Weiss Halivni
- Published in print:
- 2013
- Published Online:
- September 2013
- ISBN:
- 9780199739882
- eISBN:
- 9780199345038
- Item type:
- chapter
- Publisher:
- Oxford University Press
- DOI:
- 10.1093/acprof:oso/9780199739882.003.0004
- Subject:
- Religion, Judaism
This chapter explores the role of Compilers and Transposers in the formation of the Babylonian Talmud. The Compilers gather passages from different academies and set them in the order now found in ...
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This chapter explores the role of Compilers and Transposers in the formation of the Babylonian Talmud. The Compilers gather passages from different academies and set them in the order now found in the tractates of the Talmud. They added brief glosses and did some minimal editing, but they could not rework the traditions they received to any significant degree. The Compilers were active at the very end of the Stammaitic era, 730-770 CE. The Transposers transferred material from one Talmudic passage to another. They were active throughout the Talmudic era, beginning in Amoraic times, and up to the end of the Stammaitic era. The author categorizes transpositions into five types.Less
This chapter explores the role of Compilers and Transposers in the formation of the Babylonian Talmud. The Compilers gather passages from different academies and set them in the order now found in the tractates of the Talmud. They added brief glosses and did some minimal editing, but they could not rework the traditions they received to any significant degree. The Compilers were active at the very end of the Stammaitic era, 730-770 CE. The Transposers transferred material from one Talmudic passage to another. They were active throughout the Talmudic era, beginning in Amoraic times, and up to the end of the Stammaitic era. The author categorizes transpositions into five types.
Sergey Dolgopolski
- Published in print:
- 2012
- Published Online:
- May 2013
- ISBN:
- 9780823244928
- eISBN:
- 9780823252497
- Item type:
- chapter
- Publisher:
- Fordham University Press
- DOI:
- 10.5422/fordham/9780823244928.003.0003
- Subject:
- Philosophy, Philosophy of Religion
The chapter articulates the difference in the understanding of the role of memory in thiniking in modern ways of thinking, and in the way of thinking displayed in the late ancient texts of the ...
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The chapter articulates the difference in the understanding of the role of memory in thiniking in modern ways of thinking, and in the way of thinking displayed in the late ancient texts of the Talmud. The chapter gives voice to otherwise tacit Cartesian foundations of modern Talmud scholars in their thinking about thinking in the Talmud.Less
The chapter articulates the difference in the understanding of the role of memory in thiniking in modern ways of thinking, and in the way of thinking displayed in the late ancient texts of the Talmud. The chapter gives voice to otherwise tacit Cartesian foundations of modern Talmud scholars in their thinking about thinking in the Talmud.
Sergey Dolgopolski
- Published in print:
- 2012
- Published Online:
- May 2013
- ISBN:
- 9780823244928
- eISBN:
- 9780823252497
- Item type:
- chapter
- Publisher:
- Fordham University Press
- DOI:
- 10.5422/fordham/9780823244928.003.0004
- Subject:
- Philosophy, Philosophy of Religion
The chapter describes Talmud criticism as a hitherto predominant modern “scientific” approach to the archive of texts and the body of thought called, to use its medieval name, “The Talmud.” It ...
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The chapter describes Talmud criticism as a hitherto predominant modern “scientific” approach to the archive of texts and the body of thought called, to use its medieval name, “The Talmud.” It further outlines the trajectory of moving through (even if not “beyond”) Talmud criticism and the tacit philosophical subscriptions it runs towards asking about Talmud as a discipline of thought and memory performed in the texts of the Talmud.Less
The chapter describes Talmud criticism as a hitherto predominant modern “scientific” approach to the archive of texts and the body of thought called, to use its medieval name, “The Talmud.” It further outlines the trajectory of moving through (even if not “beyond”) Talmud criticism and the tacit philosophical subscriptions it runs towards asking about Talmud as a discipline of thought and memory performed in the texts of the Talmud.
Sergey Dolgopolski
- Published in print:
- 2018
- Published Online:
- January 2019
- ISBN:
- 9780823280186
- eISBN:
- 9780823281640
- Item type:
- book
- Publisher:
- Fordham University Press
- DOI:
- 10.5422/fordham/9780823280186.001.0001
- Subject:
- Religion, Philosophy of Religion
Denying existence to certain others, while still tolerating diversity, stabilizes a political order in a society; or does it? Addressing this classical question of political thought, Other Others ...
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Denying existence to certain others, while still tolerating diversity, stabilizes a political order in a society; or does it? Addressing this classical question of political thought, Other Others intervenes both to the study of the Talmud and Jewish Thought in its aftermath, and to political theory in general. Braking through the horizon of the currently predominant approaches to the concept of the political in political ontology and political theology, the book turns to the Talmud. In light and despite these theories, the pages of the Talmud provide a (dis)appearing display of the interpersonal rather than intersubjective political, which entails a radically different take on what engaging others means in society. The book shows how philosophy- and theology-driven approaches to the concept of the political have tacitly elided a concept of the interpersonal political, which the Talmud exemplifies. Both addressing and resisting such an elision, the book rereads the Talmud, while at the same time and by the same move reconsidering contemporary political theory. At the center of the analysis are figures of excluded others – of the “other others” who programmatically do not claim any “original” belonging to a territory and therefore by the logic of the currently predominant schools of political thought are questionable in their right to exist. The Political moves from a modern political figure of “Jews” as such “other others” to the Talmud, arriving, at the end, to a demand to think earth anew, now beyond the notions of territory, land, nationalism, internationalism, or even beyond the scope of a territorialized universe.Less
Denying existence to certain others, while still tolerating diversity, stabilizes a political order in a society; or does it? Addressing this classical question of political thought, Other Others intervenes both to the study of the Talmud and Jewish Thought in its aftermath, and to political theory in general. Braking through the horizon of the currently predominant approaches to the concept of the political in political ontology and political theology, the book turns to the Talmud. In light and despite these theories, the pages of the Talmud provide a (dis)appearing display of the interpersonal rather than intersubjective political, which entails a radically different take on what engaging others means in society. The book shows how philosophy- and theology-driven approaches to the concept of the political have tacitly elided a concept of the interpersonal political, which the Talmud exemplifies. Both addressing and resisting such an elision, the book rereads the Talmud, while at the same time and by the same move reconsidering contemporary political theory. At the center of the analysis are figures of excluded others – of the “other others” who programmatically do not claim any “original” belonging to a territory and therefore by the logic of the currently predominant schools of political thought are questionable in their right to exist. The Political moves from a modern political figure of “Jews” as such “other others” to the Talmud, arriving, at the end, to a demand to think earth anew, now beyond the notions of territory, land, nationalism, internationalism, or even beyond the scope of a territorialized universe.
David Weiss Halivni
- Published in print:
- 2013
- Published Online:
- September 2013
- ISBN:
- 9780199739882
- eISBN:
- 9780199345038
- Item type:
- book
- Publisher:
- Oxford University Press
- DOI:
- 10.1093/acprof:oso/9780199739882.001.0001
- Subject:
- Religion, Judaism
The Formation of the Babylonian Talmud is the most detailed and comprehensive scholarly analysis of the processes of composition and editing of the Babylonian Talmud. It is a complete ...
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The Formation of the Babylonian Talmud is the most detailed and comprehensive scholarly analysis of the processes of composition and editing of the Babylonian Talmud. It is a complete English translation of the original Hebrew monograph published in 2007, with an introduction and annotations. Halivni proposes that the Talmud took shape over a much longer period of time than accepted by both the traditional view and most other critical scholars, and did not reach its final form until about 750 CE. The Talmud consists of many literary strata or layers, with later layers constantly commenting upon and reinterpreting earlier layers. The later layers are qualitatively different from the earlier layers, and were composed not by the named authorities of the Talmud, the Amoraim (200-550 CE), but by anonymous sages known as Stammaim (550-750 CE). The Stammaim were the true author-editors of the Talmud, who reconstructed the reasons underpinning earlier rulings, created the dialectical argumentation characteristic of the Talmud, and formulated the literary units that make up the Talmudic text. The book also discusses the history and development of rabbinic tradition from the Mishnah through the post-Talmudic legal codes; the types of dialectical analysis found in the Babylonian Talmud and in other rabbinic works; and the roles of reciters, transmitters, compilers, transposers and editors in the composition of the Talmud.Less
The Formation of the Babylonian Talmud is the most detailed and comprehensive scholarly analysis of the processes of composition and editing of the Babylonian Talmud. It is a complete English translation of the original Hebrew monograph published in 2007, with an introduction and annotations. Halivni proposes that the Talmud took shape over a much longer period of time than accepted by both the traditional view and most other critical scholars, and did not reach its final form until about 750 CE. The Talmud consists of many literary strata or layers, with later layers constantly commenting upon and reinterpreting earlier layers. The later layers are qualitatively different from the earlier layers, and were composed not by the named authorities of the Talmud, the Amoraim (200-550 CE), but by anonymous sages known as Stammaim (550-750 CE). The Stammaim were the true author-editors of the Talmud, who reconstructed the reasons underpinning earlier rulings, created the dialectical argumentation characteristic of the Talmud, and formulated the literary units that make up the Talmudic text. The book also discusses the history and development of rabbinic tradition from the Mishnah through the post-Talmudic legal codes; the types of dialectical analysis found in the Babylonian Talmud and in other rabbinic works; and the roles of reciters, transmitters, compilers, transposers and editors in the composition of the Talmud.
Sergey Dolgopolski
- Published in print:
- 2012
- Published Online:
- May 2013
- ISBN:
- 9780823244928
- eISBN:
- 9780823252497
- Item type:
- chapter
- Publisher:
- Fordham University Press
- DOI:
- 10.5422/fordham/9780823244928.003.0002
- Subject:
- Philosophy, Philosophy of Religion
What does “to think” mean at the age of technology from mechanical machinery to its most advanced forms of computing? The chapter situates the tradition of thinking in the Talmud in juxtaposition ...
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What does “to think” mean at the age of technology from mechanical machinery to its most advanced forms of computing? The chapter situates the tradition of thinking in the Talmud in juxtaposition with philosophical and rhetorical traditions of thinking vis-a-vis technology, in particular in view of the impasses of thinking in the context of technology on the historical scope from Plato to Heidegger.Less
What does “to think” mean at the age of technology from mechanical machinery to its most advanced forms of computing? The chapter situates the tradition of thinking in the Talmud in juxtaposition with philosophical and rhetorical traditions of thinking vis-a-vis technology, in particular in view of the impasses of thinking in the context of technology on the historical scope from Plato to Heidegger.