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Herodotus and Thucydides in Roman Republican Historiography

Iris Samotta

in Thucydides and Herodotus

Published in print:
2012
Published Online:
September 2012
ISBN:
9780199593262
eISBN:
9780191752261
Item type:
chapter
Publisher:
Oxford University Press
DOI:
10.1093/acprof:oso/9780199593262.003.0013
Subject:
Classical Studies, European History: BCE to 500CE, Ancient Greek, Roman, and Early Christian Philosophy

This chapter argues that if we look at republican historiography in a different way, a lengthy tradition of reliance on and response to Herodotus and Thucydides emerges. The method for achieving a ... More


Thucydides and Herodotus

Edith Foster and Donald Lateiner (eds)

Published in print:
2012
Published Online:
September 2012
ISBN:
9780199593262
eISBN:
9780191752261
Item type:
book
Publisher:
Oxford University Press
DOI:
10.1093/acprof:oso/9780199593262.001.0001
Subject:
Classical Studies, European History: BCE to 500CE, Ancient Greek, Roman, and Early Christian Philosophy

This book looks at two of the most important ancient Greek historians living in the fifth century bce who are considered to be the founders of the western tradition of historiography. This book ... More


You Are How You Eat: Food and Identity in the Post‐exilic Period

Nathan MacDonald

in Not Bread Alone: The Uses of Food in the Old Testament

Published in print:
2008
Published Online:
January 2009
ISBN:
9780199546527
eISBN:
9780191720215
Item type:
chapter
Publisher:
Oxford University Press
DOI:
10.1093/acprof:oso/9780199546527.003.0008
Subject:
Religion, Biblical Studies

The post-exilic period is often thought to see important developments in the food consciousness of the Israelites, usually in relation to the dietary laws. The importance of the dietary laws only ... More


The ‘Rationality’ of Herodotus and Thucydides as Evidenced by Their Respective Use of Numbers ⋆

Catherine Rubincam

in Thucydides and Herodotus

Published in print:
2012
Published Online:
September 2012
ISBN:
9780199593262
eISBN:
9780191752261
Item type:
chapter
Publisher:
Oxford University Press
DOI:
10.1093/acprof:oso/9780199593262.003.0005
Subject:
Classical Studies, European History: BCE to 500CE, Ancient Greek, Roman, and Early Christian Philosophy

Paul Keyser's recent article, ‘(Un)natural Accounts in Herodotus and Thucydides’, has challenged the modern anti-Dionysian preference for Thucydides with regard particularly to one aspect of the two ... More


Oaths: Theory and Practice in the Histories of Herodotus and Thucydides *

Donald Lateiner

in Thucydides and Herodotus

Published in print:
2012
Published Online:
September 2012
ISBN:
9780199593262
eISBN:
9780191752261
Item type:
chapter
Publisher:
Oxford University Press
DOI:
10.1093/acprof:oso/9780199593262.003.0007
Subject:
Classical Studies, European History: BCE to 500CE, Ancient Greek, Roman, and Early Christian Philosophy

Weighing Thucydides' implicit (therefore, at best, only alleged) criticisms of — and homage to — his predecessor Herodotus demands comparison and examination of ‘normal’ institutions. Included oaths, ... More


Thermopylae and Pylos, with Reference to the Homeric Background *

Edith Foster

in Thucydides and Herodotus

Published in print:
2012
Published Online:
September 2012
ISBN:
9780199593262
eISBN:
9780191752261
Item type:
chapter
Publisher:
Oxford University Press
DOI:
10.1093/acprof:oso/9780199593262.003.0008
Subject:
Classical Studies, European History: BCE to 500CE, Ancient Greek, Roman, and Early Christian Philosophy

Herodotus invented a prose description of battles that differed fundamentally from the poetic battle descriptions of Homer's Iliad. His battle narratives depict group rather than individual action, ... More


Persians in Thucydides

Rosaria Vignolo Munson

in Thucydides and Herodotus

Published in print:
2012
Published Online:
September 2012
ISBN:
9780199593262
eISBN:
9780191752261
Item type:
chapter
Publisher:
Oxford University Press
DOI:
10.1093/acprof:oso/9780199593262.003.0010
Subject:
Classical Studies, European History: BCE to 500CE, Ancient Greek, Roman, and Early Christian Philosophy

Thucydides' representation of Persia is inextricably linked to his response to Herodotus, who placed the Persians at the centre of his work. The younger historian was well aware that for the Greeks ... More


Structure and Meaning in Epic and Historiography *

Richard B. Rutherford

in Thucydides and Herodotus

Published in print:
2012
Published Online:
September 2012
ISBN:
9780199593262
eISBN:
9780191752261
Item type:
chapter
Publisher:
Oxford University Press
DOI:
10.1093/acprof:oso/9780199593262.003.0002
Subject:
Classical Studies, European History: BCE to 500CE, Ancient Greek, Roman, and Early Christian Philosophy

This chapter explores one aspect of historiography's debt to epic, and uses this as a basis for some comparisons and contrasts between Herodotus and Thucydides. It argues that Homer was inevitably ... More


Thucydides as ‘Reader’ of Herodotus

Philip A. Stadter

in Thucydides and Herodotus

Published in print:
2012
Published Online:
September 2012
ISBN:
9780199593262
eISBN:
9780191752261
Item type:
chapter
Publisher:
Oxford University Press
DOI:
10.1093/acprof:oso/9780199593262.003.0003
Subject:
Classical Studies, European History: BCE to 500CE, Ancient Greek, Roman, and Early Christian Philosophy

This chapter shows that Thucydides, like Herodotus, resolved to write a work that would bring out the role of human nature in historical events. He intended, however, to express himself even more ... More


Herodotus and Thucydideson Blind Decisions Preceding Military Action

Hans-Peter Stahl

in Thucydides and Herodotus

Published in print:
2012
Published Online:
September 2012
ISBN:
9780199593262
eISBN:
9780191752261
Item type:
chapter
Publisher:
Oxford University Press
DOI:
10.1093/acprof:oso/9780199593262.003.0006
Subject:
Classical Studies, European History: BCE to 500CE, Ancient Greek, Roman, and Early Christian Philosophy

Obvious differences between Herodotus and Thucydides have been stated since antiquity, the younger historian being characterized as succinct (brevis) and always pushing himself ahead (semper instans ... More


Aristotle’s Rhetoric, the Rhetorica and Alexandrum, and the Speeches in Herodotus and Thucydides *

Christopher Pelling

in Thucydides and Herodotus

Published in print:
2012
Published Online:
September 2012
ISBN:
9780199593262
eISBN:
9780191752261
Item type:
chapter
Publisher:
Oxford University Press
DOI:
10.1093/acprof:oso/9780199593262.003.0011
Subject:
Classical Studies, European History: BCE to 500CE, Ancient Greek, Roman, and Early Christian Philosophy

Rhetoric and historiography are cousins. Like orators, historians wrote to persuade; orators included narratives; historians included speeches. It would be odd if the study of rhetoric — even though ... More


Thucydides on Themistocles: A Herodotean Narrator? ⋆

Wolfgang Blösel

in Thucydides and Herodotus

Published in print:
2012
Published Online:
September 2012
ISBN:
9780199593262
eISBN:
9780191752261
Item type:
chapter
Publisher:
Oxford University Press
DOI:
10.1093/acprof:oso/9780199593262.003.0009
Subject:
Classical Studies, European History: BCE to 500CE, Ancient Greek, Roman, and Early Christian Philosophy

For more than a century Thucydides' eulogy on Themistocles has been interpreted as a classic revision of Herodotus, who allegedly defamed the victor of Salamis. This chapter shows that Thucydides, ... More


Introduction

Edith Foster and Donald Lateiner

in Thucydides and Herodotus

Published in print:
2012
Published Online:
September 2012
ISBN:
9780199593262
eISBN:
9780191752261
Item type:
chapter
Publisher:
Oxford University Press
DOI:
10.1093/acprof:oso/9780199593262.003.0001
Subject:
Classical Studies, European History: BCE to 500CE, Ancient Greek, Roman, and Early Christian Philosophy

This introductory chapter begins with a brief discussion of the close connection between Thucydides and Herodotus as interpreted by earlier classicists and ancient historians. It then describes how ... More


Narratives and Memories of the Past

Theodora Dragostinova

in Between Two Motherlands: Nationality and Emigration among the Greeks of Bulgaria, 1900-1949

Published in print:
2011
Published Online:
August 2016
ISBN:
9780801449451
eISBN:
9780801460685
Item type:
chapter
Publisher:
Cornell University Press
DOI:
10.7591/cornell/9780801449451.003.0008
Subject:
History, European Modern History

This chapter presents the life of Kosmas Mirtilos Apostolidis—a Greek historian from Bulgaria who wrote extensively about the Bulgarian Greeks and their communities. Despite the national mission of ... More


Indirect Discourse in Herodotusand Thucydides ⋆

Carlo Scardino

in Thucydides and Herodotus

Published in print:
2012
Published Online:
September 2012
ISBN:
9780199593262
eISBN:
9780191752261
Item type:
chapter
Publisher:
Oxford University Press
DOI:
10.1093/acprof:oso/9780199593262.003.0004
Subject:
Classical Studies, European History: BCE to 500CE, Ancient Greek, Roman, and Early Christian Philosophy

This chapter examines the phenomenon of indirect speeches on the basis of a number of examples from Herodotus and Thucydides, to determine their form and function in each work, and to arrive at a ... More


The Greek Historians of Imperial Rome

David S. Potter

in The Oxford History of Historical Writing: Volume 1: Beginnings to AD 600

Published in print:
2011
Published Online:
March 2015
ISBN:
9780199218158
eISBN:
9780191804243
Item type:
chapter
Publisher:
Oxford University Press
DOI:
10.1093/acprof:osobl/9780199218158.003.0014
Subject:
History, Cultural History

This chapter focuses on the Greek historians of Rome from the second to the fifth centuries. It argues that Rome's Greek historians were not, by and large, seeking a mass audience. They were seeking ... More


Introduction: Ares, Virginia, and the Myth of the Water’s Edge

Andrew L. Johns

in Vietnam’s Second Front: Domestic Politics, the Republican Party, and the War

Published in print:
2010
Published Online:
September 2011
ISBN:
9780813125725
eISBN:
9780813135427
Item type:
chapter
Publisher:
University Press of Kentucky
DOI:
10.5810/kentucky/9780813125725.003.0001
Subject:
Political Science, American Politics

The Greek historian Thucydides grieved the tendency for those in charge of the Greek city-states to allow domestic political considerations to affect questions of national security. Had Thucydides ... More


The Fourth-Century and Hellenistic Reception of Thucydides

Simon Hornblower

in Thucydidean Themes

Published in print:
2010
Published Online:
March 2015
ISBN:
9780199562336
eISBN:
9780191804403
Item type:
chapter
Publisher:
Oxford University Press
DOI:
10.1093/acprof:osobl/9780199562336.003.0017
Subject:
History, Ancient History / Archaeology

This chapter examines Thucydides' reception in the fourth century BC and the Hellenistic period. It focuses on the Greek historians of the period, but looks also at the orators, the poliorcetic ... More


Personal Names and the Study of the Ancient Greek Historians

Simon Hornblower

in Thucydidean Themes

Published in print:
2010
Published Online:
March 2015
ISBN:
9780199562336
eISBN:
9780191804403
Item type:
chapter
Publisher:
Oxford University Press
DOI:
10.1093/acprof:osobl/9780199562336.003.0006
Subject:
History, Ancient History / Archaeology

This chapter considers personal names, which have elicited very little interest among scholars of ancient historians, and how they can reflect the factual truthfulness of historical texts. This ... More


The Prehistory of Roman Historiography

T.P. Wiseman

in Unwritten Rome

Published in print:
2008
Published Online:
January 2014
ISBN:
9780859898225
eISBN:
9781781385500
Item type:
chapter
Publisher:
Liverpool University Press
DOI:
10.5949/liverpool/9780859898225.003.0014
Subject:
History, Ancient History / Archaeology

Archaeological evidence proves that Rome and Latium were familiar with Greeks and Greek culture from at least the eighth century BC. By the late fifth century Rome was of interest to Greek ... More


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