Patrick Nold
- Published in print:
- 2003
- Published Online:
- January 2010
- ISBN:
- 9780199268757
- eISBN:
- 9780191708510
- Item type:
- book
- Publisher:
- Oxford University Press
- DOI:
- 10.1093/acprof:oso/9780199268757.001.0001
- Subject:
- History, History of Religion
The debate over the poverty of Christ and his apostles under Pope John XXII (1316-1334) is one of the most famous intellectual controversies of the Middle Ages. The story of the uncompromising pope ...
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The debate over the poverty of Christ and his apostles under Pope John XXII (1316-1334) is one of the most famous intellectual controversies of the Middle Ages. The story of the uncompromising pope on collision course with a united Franciscan Order has often been told, most memorably by Umberto Eco in The Name of the Rose. In this book, the author sets out to investigate the Franciscan Cardinal Bertrand de la Tour, a man apparently torn between the pope who was his patron and the Order to which he had devoted his life. Until now Bertrand has been considered of little importance, owing to his neglect by the primary sources conventionally relied upon by historians. The author suggests that these sources are unreliable: they were written years after the fact by disaffected Franciscans such as William of Ockham. From unpublished manuscript sources, he reconstructs the beginnings of the controversy and reveals the crucial role played by the Franciscan Cardinal. His discovery of Bertrand's significance undermines the common scholarly understanding of this episode and of the character of John XXII himself. He provides a major reinterpretation of the apostolic poverty controversy that has far-reaching consequences for issues such as papal infallibility, natural rights theory, and Ockham's political writings.Less
The debate over the poverty of Christ and his apostles under Pope John XXII (1316-1334) is one of the most famous intellectual controversies of the Middle Ages. The story of the uncompromising pope on collision course with a united Franciscan Order has often been told, most memorably by Umberto Eco in The Name of the Rose. In this book, the author sets out to investigate the Franciscan Cardinal Bertrand de la Tour, a man apparently torn between the pope who was his patron and the Order to which he had devoted his life. Until now Bertrand has been considered of little importance, owing to his neglect by the primary sources conventionally relied upon by historians. The author suggests that these sources are unreliable: they were written years after the fact by disaffected Franciscans such as William of Ockham. From unpublished manuscript sources, he reconstructs the beginnings of the controversy and reveals the crucial role played by the Franciscan Cardinal. His discovery of Bertrand's significance undermines the common scholarly understanding of this episode and of the character of John XXII himself. He provides a major reinterpretation of the apostolic poverty controversy that has far-reaching consequences for issues such as papal infallibility, natural rights theory, and Ockham's political writings.
PATRICK NOLD
- Published in print:
- 2003
- Published Online:
- January 2010
- ISBN:
- 9780199268757
- eISBN:
- 9780191708510
- Item type:
- chapter
- Publisher:
- Oxford University Press
- DOI:
- 10.1093/acprof:oso/9780199268757.003.0005
- Subject:
- History, History of Religion
This chapter examines the longer text attributed to Bertrand de la Tour in MS BAV vat. lat. 3740. It explains that the results of the analysis into the Compendiosa Resumptio will provide the basis ...
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This chapter examines the longer text attributed to Bertrand de la Tour in MS BAV vat. lat. 3740. It explains that the results of the analysis into the Compendiosa Resumptio will provide the basis for evaluation of Bertrand's Dicta. It adds that this comparison will reveal more about the relation between the two texts. It will again consider the two Franciscans, Vital du Four and Arnaud Royard, for they too have Dicta as well as Compendiose Resumptiones in MS BAV vat. lat. 3740. On the basis of more extensive research, this chapter re-examines if Bertrand was an exception amongst Franciscans in 1322. It clarifies that the Dicta adds subsidiary points and more supporting authorities. It adds that the organizational structure of the Dicta is much clearer and easier to follow: points made in the Compendiosa Resumptio are always expressed more fluently in the Dicta.Less
This chapter examines the longer text attributed to Bertrand de la Tour in MS BAV vat. lat. 3740. It explains that the results of the analysis into the Compendiosa Resumptio will provide the basis for evaluation of Bertrand's Dicta. It adds that this comparison will reveal more about the relation between the two texts. It will again consider the two Franciscans, Vital du Four and Arnaud Royard, for they too have Dicta as well as Compendiose Resumptiones in MS BAV vat. lat. 3740. On the basis of more extensive research, this chapter re-examines if Bertrand was an exception amongst Franciscans in 1322. It clarifies that the Dicta adds subsidiary points and more supporting authorities. It adds that the organizational structure of the Dicta is much clearer and easier to follow: points made in the Compendiosa Resumptio are always expressed more fluently in the Dicta.
PATRICK NOLD
- Published in print:
- 2003
- Published Online:
- January 2010
- ISBN:
- 9780199268757
- eISBN:
- 9780191708510
- Item type:
- chapter
- Publisher:
- Oxford University Press
- DOI:
- 10.1093/acprof:oso/9780199268757.003.0004
- Subject:
- History, History of Religion
This chapter begins by discussing that Cardinal Bertrand de la Tour was well represented in MS BAV vat. lat. 3740, and was a major spokesman for his Order at the curial debate on apostolic poverty. ...
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This chapter begins by discussing that Cardinal Bertrand de la Tour was well represented in MS BAV vat. lat. 3740, and was a major spokesman for his Order at the curial debate on apostolic poverty. It adds that Tocco identified Bertrand as the most important Franciscan of the day. It explains that Bertrand asserted that the condition of Christ and the apostles was the most perfect of all possible states. It also discusses several important issues that occupy the bulk of Bertrand's opinion following his list of favourable biblical parasitic authorities. It focuses on the investigation of the edited Compendiose Resumptiones.Less
This chapter begins by discussing that Cardinal Bertrand de la Tour was well represented in MS BAV vat. lat. 3740, and was a major spokesman for his Order at the curial debate on apostolic poverty. It adds that Tocco identified Bertrand as the most important Franciscan of the day. It explains that Bertrand asserted that the condition of Christ and the apostles was the most perfect of all possible states. It also discusses several important issues that occupy the bulk of Bertrand's opinion following his list of favourable biblical parasitic authorities. It focuses on the investigation of the edited Compendiose Resumptiones.
PATRICK NOLD
- Published in print:
- 2003
- Published Online:
- January 2010
- ISBN:
- 9780199268757
- eISBN:
- 9780191708510
- Item type:
- chapter
- Publisher:
- Oxford University Press
- DOI:
- 10.1093/acprof:oso/9780199268757.003.0008
- Subject:
- History, History of Religion
This chapter begins by examining the figure apparently caught in the middle of such conflict: the Franciscan Cardinal, Bertrand de la Tour. It focuses on investigating Pope John XXII's personal ...
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This chapter begins by examining the figure apparently caught in the middle of such conflict: the Franciscan Cardinal, Bertrand de la Tour. It focuses on investigating Pope John XXII's personal background. It assesses John's education and whether he had any theological training. It also presents evidence on the reaction of Pope John XXII to the Chapter General. It talks about how John continued his explanation of how the retention domini arrangement had harmed the Franciscans' state of perfection. It ends where the apostolic poverty controversy begins. It clarifies the idea that the Papacy, in the person of Pope John XXII, originally opposed the notion of papal infallibility cannot be substantiated by a thorough analysis of the evidence of the controversy over apostolic poverty.Less
This chapter begins by examining the figure apparently caught in the middle of such conflict: the Franciscan Cardinal, Bertrand de la Tour. It focuses on investigating Pope John XXII's personal background. It assesses John's education and whether he had any theological training. It also presents evidence on the reaction of Pope John XXII to the Chapter General. It talks about how John continued his explanation of how the retention domini arrangement had harmed the Franciscans' state of perfection. It ends where the apostolic poverty controversy begins. It clarifies the idea that the Papacy, in the person of Pope John XXII, originally opposed the notion of papal infallibility cannot be substantiated by a thorough analysis of the evidence of the controversy over apostolic poverty.
PATRICK NOLD
- Published in print:
- 2003
- Published Online:
- January 2010
- ISBN:
- 9780199268757
- eISBN:
- 9780191708510
- Item type:
- chapter
- Publisher:
- Oxford University Press
- DOI:
- 10.1093/acprof:oso/9780199268757.003.0001
- Subject:
- History, History of Religion
This chapter focuses on re-mapping the famous theological controversy over the poverty of Christ and his apostles with a view towards pinpointing the position of Bertrand de la Tour. It investigates ...
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This chapter focuses on re-mapping the famous theological controversy over the poverty of Christ and his apostles with a view towards pinpointing the position of Bertrand de la Tour. It investigates the true identity of ‘Nicholas the Minorite’ and the role that he played in the controversy. It explains that the Chronicle's usefulness as an historical source lies precisely in its unoriginality, in reproducing documents in their original form. It discusses that the sources indicate that consistories on apostolic poverty were held in Avignon during the spring of 1322, suggestive that several Franciscans had replied to Pope John on the question of apostolic poverty before the Order made its ‘official response’ at Perugia in June, which is the first Franciscan reaction in the sequence of the Chronicle. It argues that the Chronicle cannot stand alone as an account of the debate on apostolic poverty.Less
This chapter focuses on re-mapping the famous theological controversy over the poverty of Christ and his apostles with a view towards pinpointing the position of Bertrand de la Tour. It investigates the true identity of ‘Nicholas the Minorite’ and the role that he played in the controversy. It explains that the Chronicle's usefulness as an historical source lies precisely in its unoriginality, in reproducing documents in their original form. It discusses that the sources indicate that consistories on apostolic poverty were held in Avignon during the spring of 1322, suggestive that several Franciscans had replied to Pope John on the question of apostolic poverty before the Order made its ‘official response’ at Perugia in June, which is the first Franciscan reaction in the sequence of the Chronicle. It argues that the Chronicle cannot stand alone as an account of the debate on apostolic poverty.